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Notes from Second LDAS meeting: Sept 2, 1pm, NCEP


LDAS Decisions and Discussion Summary:



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1) Decisions on Practical LDAS Issues

-Review of Previous LDAS decisions (Mitchell)

-2 people from each LDAS team will be granted accounts on the new NCEP Origin 2000 server. This server will be used for operational LDAS runs by each group. A testing directory will also be allocated for wach group, however, experimental LDAS and retrospective LDAS runs will generally not be done at NCEP. Workstation ID forms were distributed and filled out - if you did not fill one out and want access to NCEP's LDAS server, contact Ken Mitchell or Curtis Marshall.

-Curtis Marshall distributed the proposed LDAS directory structure on the NCEP server (we really need a name for this server). This is on the LDAS Specs page - please review it and send any changes to Curtis.
-We discussed the retrospective LDAS runs witl no conclusion. This is a big issue that we must define better. Most of this work will probably be done by the Princeton/Washington Group. We have modern Precip and Radiation forcing back to Mid 1996. Before this time, a different LDAS forcing data set will need to be developed.

-The following issues were all deferred to the next LDAS meeting. I suggest that we circulate a proposed list of common model outputs before this meeting to come to some agreement soon.

1.1 Commonality of Model Configuration
1.1.1 Common Parameters, Mask, Forcing - can we agree? - do we NEED to agree?
1.1.2 Common Output
1.1.2.1 Experience from PILPS (Mitchell)
1.1.2.2 Experience from GSWP (Koster?)

1.2 Grid Definition
1.2.1 Grid Def. and Reasoning (Marshall)
1.2.2 Mask definition (Houser)

-We decided to redefine the LDAS domain. The new domain is defined on the LDAS Specs page. The domain is from 25 to 53 lat and -67 to -125 lon. This new grid includes all of the GCIP and Columbia river basins. We will model all land points in this domain. The new mask is on the LDAS parameters page (use the IBGP mask definition). We will have to work through observational problems outside the U.S.


1.3.2 Elevation (Schaake?)
-The office of Hydrology will provide max, min, and average elevation and perhaps slope on the LDAS 1/8 degree grid.

1.3.3 Soils (Schaake?)
-The office of Hydrology will provide a variety of soils information on the LDAS grid. Priority in decreasing order are 1) Elevation, 2) Soil Type, Soil Characteristics (%sand/silt/clay, texture), Conductivity.

2) Invited Presentations:

3:00pm 2.1) Dan Tarpley: Observed Radiation Issues
-Dan gave us a great presentation on the Observed Radiation Issues and Characteristics. He showed us the current model biases and the complex effects of shadowing. He also suggested several new directions they plan to take to support LDAS (i.e. a multi-GOES alogrithm, etc.).

3:30pm 2.2) Huug Vandendool: Monthly Soil Moisture Modeling

-Huug also presented a very encouraging topic os understanding how soil moisture (and land surface processes in general) is linked to large-scale climatic anomalies. He has some very valuable analysis techniques that will be exciting to apply in the LDAS context.



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